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Inquiry regarding a Renaissance choral work

Posted: 16 Nov 2010 05:26
by hnorth153
Hello!

I am brand new to this forum, and I am hoping someone on this site will be able to help me. I am a passionate lover of Renaissance choral music, and I have stumbled across a gorgeous piece, but have been unable to identify the composer or the name of the piece.

A few weeks ago, I watched a beautiful film from the 1970s entitled Death in Venice (I'm sure you've heard of it!). There is a particular scene in the film that takes place in the Basilica of San Marco, and in the background, a gorgeous song is being performed by the choir. I am not sure if I'm correct, but it seems to be polyphony in the Italian style. I have been combing through music, but cannot find this particular piece anywhere. Strangely enough, it does not appear on the soundtrack for the film, nor in any of the credits.

I have provided a link within this email to a You Tube video, which contains the very scene, and song, I am looking for. The song occurs at exactly 8:35 into the video, and it's very prominent, so it cannot be missed. The clip is from my personal playlist, and I assure you it is most safe. If there is any way you can provide me with information concerning this gorgeous song, I would be most grateful. I have had a rather terrible time trying to locate it so far, and would love to add it to my music collection.

Here is the link for the mentioned clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2E6UK3x ... re=related

Thank you SO much!

-Heidi

Re: Inquiry regarding a Renaissance choral work

Posted: 18 Nov 2010 21:01
by DaveF

Re: Inquiry regarding a Renaissance choral work

Posted: 18 Nov 2010 22:51
by hnorth153
THANK. YOU. SO. MUCH!!!! You just made my entire week! THANK YOU! :D

Re: Inquiry regarding a Renaissance choral work

Posted: 19 Nov 2010 01:11
by hnorth153
Hello again!

Forgive me, but do you happen to know of any recordings of this work? I have been searching, but can only find recordings of part of Palestrina's Offertorium.

Thank you so much again for your help!!!!

-Heidi

Re: Inquiry regarding a Renaissance choral work

Posted: 19 Nov 2010 14:39
by DaveF
The only recording of an "Illumina oculos" by Palestrina I can find is at http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/alb ... m_id=64893, although there is no indication whether this is the 5- or the 3-part setting, and $38 might be a bit too much to pay just to find out. The 1997 release date is misleading, too, as the recording was originally made in 1961, so might not represent Palestrina as we would wish to hear him today. The only solution is to find four like-minded friends and sing it!

DF

Re: Inquiry regarding a Renaissance choral work

Posted: 19 Nov 2010 16:33
by CHGiffen
DaveF wrote: ... The 1997 release date is misleading, too, as the recording was originally made in 1961, so might not represent Palestrina as we would wish to hear him today. The only solution is to find four like-minded friends and sing it!
:D That's a good point ... and a funny one, Dave! :D

Re: Inquiry regarding a Renaissance choral work

Posted: 19 Nov 2010 19:22
by hnorth153
Many thanks to all of you for the help!

I am going to submit this as a proposed work to the Charlotte Symphony Chamber Choir for our season. I agree, the best way to hear/experience music like this is to research the piece, and perform it with "like minded friends."

So, once again, thank you so so so much!

-Heidi

Re: Inquiry regarding a Renaissance choral work

Posted: 21 Nov 2010 00:52
by panda
I have an LP of this recording - it is the 5 part motet, and I think the Regensburg choir would sing it rather differently today compared to how they sang it in 1961!

Re: Inquiry regarding a Renaissance choral work

Posted: 21 Nov 2010 01:15
by hnorth153
Ah, it is the 5 part motet! Thank you for that info!

Forgive my ignorance, but in what way would the Regensburg Choir sing the piece differently? I am not familiar with this particular choir. I'm curious to know!

:) :)

-Heidi

Re: Inquiry regarding a Renaissance choral work

Posted: 21 Nov 2010 09:19
by pml
Molto vibrato e rubato, I should think, back then... PML

Re: Inquiry regarding a Renaissance choral work

Posted: 21 Nov 2010 12:14
by panda
Well I decided I had better have a listen. Indeed it is molto vibrato but the tempo is quite steady. A sensational upwards scoop on Il---lumina at the start got my immediate attention. I am sure the Regensburger Domspatzen have much better blending and intonation these days.