High School general choir

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High School general choir

Postby bandguy5686 » 28 Jan 2012 17:31

Hi everyone. I'm in the western US at a semi-rural High School. I have five boys and 24 girls in a non-auditioned choir-all willing kids! My boys are: 1 true tenor, three sort of "baritones" and 1 true bass :shock: !!!

I am interested in introducing them to the wonders of Renaissance motets at a level that won't blow them away. Do you have some "must do" suggestions?

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Re: High School general choir

Postby CHGiffen » 29 Jan 2012 03:43

The following might work: Tallis: If ye love me-pdf (transposed up a fourth from the original)
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Re: High School general choir

Postby vaarky » 31 Jan 2012 06:57

I suggest checking Sicut Cervus by Palestrina, and Byrd's Ave Verum Corpus (though you'll be the best judge of whether the ranges work).

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Re: High School general choir

Postby choralia » 31 Jan 2012 07:05

vaarky wrote:I suggest checking Sicut Cervus by Palestrina, and Byrd's Ave Verum Corpus

For these works you can also find free choir training aids on my website, Choralia (http://www.choralia.net). Beginners find them quite useful.

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Re: High School general choir

Postby Cdalitz » 01 Feb 2012 16:00

When a French text is ok, I would suggest "Le content est riche" by Sermisy. Beside "Doulce memoire" it was the most popular piece of the 16th century. "Le content" has a very comfortable ambitus for all voices and has simple, easy to learn lines interwoven in perfect counterpoint.

If the text must be in English or Latin, I would suggest "Weepe o mine eyes" by Bennet (though the many suspensions and semitones can cause intonation problems) or "O magnum mysterium" by Victoria.

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Re: High School general choir

Postby vaarky » 03 Feb 2012 16:49

Ooh, I don't know that Sermisy piece! Will try it, probably Thursday. Any chance you can add a translation to the works page or provide it otherwise so we can get it added?

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Re: High School general choir

Postby Cdalitz » 05 Feb 2012 16:01

Any chance you can add a translation to the works page?


My French is not the best, so maybe someone with better knowledge of the French language should do it. I were interested in it too.

After having a look again at the Facsimile, I have noticed that I had changed the tenor at the beginning of the last repeat to sing three c's instead of only one. While I still consider this more satisfying to sing, others might prefer the original version where the tenor and alto simultanously start the repeat without an imitation.

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Re: High School general choir

Postby anaigeon » 05 Feb 2012 20:44

Is there any problem with this translation ?
http://www1.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Le_content_est_riche

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Re: High School general choir

Postby carlos » 05 Feb 2012 23:28

anaigeon wrote:Is there any problem with this translation ?

Hi anaigeon, in fact this rough translation is brand new (was posted only yesterday) and our friend Claude Tallet is helping me with the subtleties of the text. :wink:

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Re: High School general choir

Postby anaigeon » 05 Feb 2012 23:42

Indeed this translation to English helps me to be sure of my understanding of the French text, which isn't quite modern, of course :)
Now that the meaning is clear, it should be possible for an English native speaker to change the translation to a more poetic/musical version.

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Re: High School general choir

Postby carlos » 06 Feb 2012 00:39

anaigeon wrote:...an English native speaker to change the translation to a more poetic/musical version.

That would be great!

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Re: High School general choir

Postby cjshawcj » 06 Feb 2012 10:01

carlos wrote:
anaigeon wrote:...an English naive speaker to change the translation to a more poetic/musical version.

That would be great!



Bish, bash, bosh. Sorted. (But I leave it here rather than on the lyrics page):
FRENCH
Le content est riche en ce monde et bien heureux en ce temps ci.
A cœur joyeux liberté monde vivre chez soi hors de souci.
Etre amoureux non point transi. Et à tous deuil clore les yeux.
Toujours, gaillards, faites ainsi Et vous vivrez cent ans et mieux.
ANGLO-FRENCH
The contented is rich in this world and happy in this time.
A merry heart, free world lives at home without concern.
Be in love but not lovesick. And to all mourning close your eyes.
Always, fellows, do so and you will live a hundred years and more.
ENGLISH DEMOTIC ARGOT
Right now the smug is well happy.
No worries innit.
Be up for it (in a good way)
No worries innit
Live life to the max age-wise.

To return to the original question as to recommendations for MOTETS, may I suggest Robert Carver's "O Bone Jesu" a 19 in an edition for S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A. thereby freeing up 5 girls to make the tea for the group, and all the boys for more manly pursuits. :|

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Re: High School general choir

Postby bobnotts » 06 Feb 2012 21:47

cjshawcj wrote:ENGLISH DEMOTIC ARGOT
Right now the smug is well happy.
No worries innit.
Be up for it (in a good way)
No worries innit
Live life to the max age-wise.


:D :D :D
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Re: High School general choir

Postby vaarky » 08 Feb 2012 18:34

Love the Robert Carver suggestion. :)


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