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Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby DeCapo » 08 Nov 2009 17:45

How would I go about getting this piece of music? It's not on the internet, how would I find it in a shop or Library

Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous (Milian 17th century)

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby carlos » 08 Nov 2009 18:38

There is a "Ciaccona del Paradiso e del Inferno" performed/recorded by L'Arpeggiata with Christina Pluhar. Is this the one you're looking for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ-VsKB_tNw

Nice music, by the way! Love these old dance movements.
This specific ciaccona bears a striking similitude to Monteverdi's "Zefiro torna":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6tJWY2Vaz4

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby DeCapo » 09 Nov 2009 16:58

Yes it is, and yes it does :) They are both to be in a concert of mine hopefully, but I can't find the sheet music for the Ciaconna... and dont fancy transcribing it :/

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby fdoell » 09 Nov 2009 22:44

Why not contacting Christina Pluhar? She has an own website at http://www.arpeggiata.com/. Give her an e-mail and maybe your dreams come true...

Friedhelm

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby DeCapo » 10 Nov 2009 13:39

Oh! Thanks I didnt think of that :)
I'll give it a shot
Thanks again!

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby nolinesbarred » 10 Nov 2009 22:34

Thanks for the YouTube link. Excellent. Does anyone know of similar music arranged SATB, or for two or three parts? I don't know where to start looking.

Hope you find the sheet music DeCapo, and good luck for your concert.

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby Cdalitz » 11 Nov 2009 21:20

Does anyone know of similar music arranged SATB, or for two or three parts?

Most of the music in this style is for instruments (typically two violins and basso continuo).
Here is a decent example:
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~tuben/scores/meop17/

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby agarvin » 09 Dec 2009 22:59

The piece is from the anonymous collection Canzonette Spirituali e Morali, printed in Milan in c.1657, a late-ish printing of songs for 1 to 3 voices in alfabeto notation.

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby Cdalitz » 11 Dec 2009 11:22

This specific ciaccona bears a striking similitude to Monteverdi's "Zefiro torna"

This particular Chaconne can be found in several sources, so I would not dare to ascribe it to Monteverdi (themes for variations were a common good in the 16th century, like "La Monica", "La Romanesca" (aka "Greensleeves"), "La Follia" etc.).

A similar chaconne can also be found in "Es steh Gott auf" by Heinrich Schuetz (Symphoniae Sacrae). The Chaconne at the end of this beautiful piece is closely related to the chaconne in question, and it has also been used by Monteverdi ("Zefiro torna") or Merula (the Chaconne on the CD "Viaggio Musicale" by "Il Giardino Armonico"). The beginning of "Es steh Gott auf" is a parody (i.e., a highly artistic rewriting and transformation into a different context) on "Armato il Cor" by Monteverdi.

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby lmb » 12 Dec 2010 16:32

nolinesbarred wrote:Thanks for the YouTube link. Excellent. Does anyone know of similar music arranged SATB, or for two or three parts? I don't know where to start looking.


Try Barbara Strozzi, Maddalena Laura Lombardini Sirmen, Marianna von Martines, Isabella Leonarda.

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby Believer » 02 Jan 2013 17:11

fdoell wrote:Why not contacting Christina Pluhar? She has an own website at http://www.arpeggiata.com/. Give her an e-mail and maybe your dreams come true...

Friedhelm

I tried to contact her via mail but I didnt get a response, never. I think the website is just pro forma.

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby anaigeon » 02 Jan 2013 19:26

You might like to try their Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/pages/LArpeggiata/33683188993

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby agarvin » 01 Jan 2015 21:52

The piece is from the anonymous collection Canzonette Spirituali e Morali, printed in Milan in c.1657, a late-ish printing of songs for 1 to 3 voices in alfabeto notation.


Einstein's additions to Vogel say the libraries that have it are: Bibliothèque, Conservatoire Royal de la Musique, Brussels; University Library, Glasgow, United Kingdom; and "Reggio (B. Municipale)" (don't know what city this refers to, exactly).

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby choralia » 02 Jan 2015 21:01

agarvin wrote:and "Reggio (B. Municipale)" (don't know what city this refers to, exactly).

The Italian OPAC reports it with the full title:

Canzonette spirituali e morali che si cantano nell'Oratorio di Chiavenna eretto sotto la protettione di S. Filippo Neri. Accomodate per cantar a 1,2,3 voci come più piace con le lettere della chitarra sopra arie communi e nuove date in luce per trattenimento spirituale d'ogni persona

that roughly means:

Spritual and moral songs that are sung in the Oratory of Chiavenna, built under the protection of St. Filippo Neri. Arranged to sing with 1,2,3 voices at will with guitar letters above popular and new arias published for the spiritual entertainment of all persons

Two copies are reported: one at the Biblioteca municipale (municipal library) Antonio Panizzi of Reggio Emilia (not far away from Bologna); and one at the Biblioteca civica (civic library) Angelo Mai of Bergamo (not far away from Milan).

Max

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Re: Ciacona di Paradiso et dell´Inferno- Anonymous

Postby enllorvall » 19 May 2016 20:57

If you are looking for the sheet music, I've made a transcription of the ciaccona, as close as possible of L'arpeggiata interpretation. Later I added two violin parts which are mine (I prepared an arrangement intended for my pupils) but the voices and the continuo are exactly the same you can hear at the L'arpeggiata CD.

The score is available for purchase at http://www.scoreexchange.com/scores/167480.html

Hope this helps.

Enrique Llorens


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